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Bluetooth Bee

Bluetooth Bee is an easy to use Bluetooth Serial Port Profile(SPP) module compatible with existing Xbee sockets, designed for transparent wireless serial connection setup. Serial port Bluetooth module is fully qualified Bluetooth V2.0+EDR(Enhanced Data Rate) 3Mbps Modulation with complete 2.4GHz radio transceiver and baseband. It uses CSR Bluecore 04-External single chip Bluetooth system with CMOS technology and with AFH(Adaptive Frequency Hopping Feature). It has the smallest footprint of 12.7mm x 27mm

Features¶

Hardware Features¶

Typical -80dBm sensitivity.

Up to +4dBm RF transmit power.

Fully Qualified Bluetooth V2.0+EDR 3Mbps Modulation.

Low Power 1.8V Operation, 1.8 to 3.6V I/O.

UART interface with programmable baud rate.

Integrated PCB antenna.

xBee compatible headers.

Software Features¶

Default Baud rate: 38400 , Data bits:8, Stop bit:1,Parity:No parity, Data control: has.

Supported baud rate: 9600,19200,38400,57600,115200,230400,460800.

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Use CTS and RTS to control the data stream.

When a rising pulse is detected in PIO0, device will be disconnected.

Status instruction port PIO1: low-disconnected, high-connected;

PIO10 is connected to red led, PIO11 is connected to green led. When master and slave are paired, red and green led blinks 1time / 2s in interval, while disconnected only green led blinks 2 times/ s.

Auto-connect the last device on power as default.

Permit matched device connect by default.

Auto-reconnect in 30 min when disconnected as a result of beyond the range of connection.

Application Ideas¶

As a Wireless Serial Port for Arduino / Seeeduino and other MCUs

As a Bluetooth Serial Port for PC when connected with UartSBee

Cautions¶

While using with Seeeduino / Arduino, set the operation voltage to 3.3V. Else use a proper logic level converter.

While using with UartSBee, set the operation voltage to 3.3V

Command to change baud rate is persistent even after reset. Hence remember the baud rate for next use.

When using SoftwareSerial, do not set the baud rate above 38400

Schematic¶

Pin definition and Rating¶

Pin # Pad Type Description
PI09 29 Bi-Direction Programmable input/output line
PI08 28 Bi-Direction Programmable input/output line
PIO7 27 Bi-Direction Programmable input/output line
PIO6 26 Bi-Direction Programmable input/output line
RTS 25 CMOS output,tri-stable with weak internal pull-up UART requese to send,active low
PIO5 24 Bi-Direction Programmable input/output line
PI04 23 Bi-Direction Programmable input/output line
PCMSY 22 Bi-Direction Synchronous PCM data
CTS 21 CMOS output,tri-stable with weak internal pull-up UART clear to send,active low
PIO3 20 Bi-Direction Programmable input/output line
PIO2 19 Bi-Direction Programmable input/output line
USBDP 18 Bi-Direction
USBDN 17 Bi-Direction
CLK 16 CMOS output,tri-stable with weak internal pull-up SPI(Serial peripheral interface)clock
MI 15 CMOS output,tri-stable with weak internal pull-up SPI data output
MO 14 CMOS output,tri-stable with weak internal pull-up SPI data output
CS 13 CMOS output,tri-stable with weak internal pull-up Chip select for serial peripheral interface,active low
AIO1 12 Bi-Direction Programmable input/output line
AIO0 11 Bi-Direction Programmable input/output line
GND 10 VSS Ground port
PCMIN 9 CMO input Synchronous PCM data input
PCMOT 8 CMOS output Synchronous PCM data input
PCMCK 7 Bi-Direction Synchronous PCM data input
PIO1 6 Bi-Direction Programmable input/output line
IRST 5 CMOS output,tri-stable with weak internal pull-up Resert if low,inpue must be low for>5ms tocause a reset
PIO0 4 Bi-Direction Programmable input/output line
RX 3 CMOS output,tri-stable with weak internal pull-up UART data input
TX 2 CMOS output,tri-stable with weak internal pull-up UART data input
3V3 1 3.3V INtergrated 3.3v(+)supply with on-chip linear regulator output wiyhin 3.15-3.3v

Mechanic Dimensions¶

Bluetooth Bee board is of 12.7mm x 27mm size.

Usage¶

Hardware Installation¶

Connecting to Arduino with XBee Shield¶

Use a XBee® Shield to connect Bluetooth Bee to Seeeduino / Arduino. Refer the XBee® Shield documentation on how to set the toggle switches to correct positions.

Connecting to PC with UartSbee¶

Use an UartSBee to connect Bluetooth Bee to PC. Set the power selection toggle switch to 3.3V before connecting BlueTooth Bee.

Software Instruction¶

Working Sketch Map¶

The following sketch presents an overview of Bluetooth Bee operation in master and slave mode.

Flowchart¶

The following flowchart gives a quick start guide to Bluetooth Bee programming.

Commands to change default configuration¶

  1. Set working MODE

| \r\n+STWMOD=0\r\n | Set device working mode as client (slave). Save and Rest. | |—||| | ** \r\n+STWMOD=1\r\n** | Set device working mode as server (master). Save and Rest. |

Note:\r\n is necessary for operation and the value of are 80x0D 0x0A in Hex. \r and \n represent carriage-return and line-feed(or next line),

\r\n+STBD=115200\r\n Set baudrate 115200. Save and Rest.
Supported baudrate: 9600, 19200,38400,57600,115200,230400,460800.

3.Set Device NAME

\r\n+STNA=abcdefg\r\n Set device name as “abcdefg”. Save and Rest.

\r\n+STNA=abcdefg\r\n Set device name as “abcdefg”. Save and Rest.

4.Auto-connect the last paired device on power

\r\n+STAUTO=0\r\n Auto-connect forbidden. Save and Rest.
\r\n+STAUTO=1\r\n ** Permit Auto-connect. Save and Rest.**

5.Permit Paired device to connect me

\r\n+STOAUT=0\r\n Forbidden. Save and Rest.
**\r\n+STOAUT=1\r\n ** ** Permit. Save and Rest. **

| \r\n +STPIN=2222\r\n | Set pincode “2222”, Save and Rest. | |—|
||| |

7.Delete PINCODE(input PINCODE by MCU)

\r\n+DLPIN\r\n Delete pincode. Save and Rest.

8.Read local ADDRESS CODE

\r\n+RTADDR\r\n Return address of the device.

9.Auto-reconnecting when master device is beyond the valid range (slave device will auto-reconnect in 30 min when it is beyond the valid range)

\r\n+LOSSRECONN=0\r\n Forbid auto-reconnecting.
** \r\n+LOSSRECONN=1\r\n** **Permit auto-reconnecting. **

Commands for Normal Operation:¶

1.Inquire¶

a) Master¶

\r\n+INQ=0\r\n Stop Inquiring
\r\n+INQ=1\r\n Begin/Restart Inquiring

b) Slave¶

\r\n+INQ=0\r\n Disable been inquired
** \r\n+INQ=1\r\n** Enable been inquired

When +INQ=1 command is successful, the red and green LEDS blink alternatively.

2.Bluetooth module returns inquiring result¶

\r\n+RTINQ=aa,bb,cc,dd,ee,ff;name\r\n Serial Bluetooth device with the address “aa,bb,cc,dd,ee,ff” and the name “name” is inquired

3.Connect device¶

\r\n+CONN=aa,bb,cc,dd,ee,ff\r\n Connect to a device with address of «aa,bb,cc,dd,ee,ff”

4.Bluetooth module requests inputting PINCODE¶

5.Input PINCODE¶

\r\n+RTPIN=code\r\n
Example: RTPIN=0000 **Input PINCODE which is four zero **

6. Disconnect device¶

Pulling PIO0 high will disconnect current working Bluetooth device.

7. Return status¶

(Note: This is not a command, but the information returned from the module after every command)

Programming¶

Flow Control Based Implementation¶

The following sketch configures Bluetooth Bee for Transportunternehmen as Slave Device and waits for connection request from PC or other master device. Bluetooth Bee is connected to Seeeduino via XBee Shield as shown above. Bluetooth Bee is connected to digital Pins 11 and 12 of Arduino / Seeduino. We use NewSoftSerial library for supporting serial communication on these pins. The hardware serial port of Arduino is available for uploading sketch or debugging. This sketch uses a flow control mechanism using CheckOK(). It avoids using arbitrary delay between each command. If CheckOK() is not required, use a delay of at least 3 seconds between commands.

Delay Based Implementation¶

The following sketch is a modification of above program using delay() instead of CheckOK(). In this case the hardware serial port is used for debugging purpose. Open serial monitor with setting 9600 baud. The complete communication between MCU and Bluetooth Bee will be visible in serial monitor.

Connecting Bluetooth Bee to PC (via Bluetooth Dongle) under GNU/Linux¶

This procedure demonstrates how Bluetooth Bee can be connected to PC under GNU/Linux OS. An USB Bluetooth Dongle is used at PC side to communicate with Bluetooth Bee. The flow control implementation sketch is uploaded to Seeeduino.

sudo apt-get install gnome-bluetooth

  • Open bluetooth-properties application from shell
  • Click Set up new device

and click Forward

  • Set Fixed PIN 0000. 0000 is the default pin used in the above sketch.
  • Device Setup Window opens
  • and Setup Completed dialog opens. Click Close.
  • The address of the **Bluetooth Bee**00:13:EF:00:00:24 is displayed in shell.
  • Bind the Bluetooth Bee to rfcomm port. Here the address of Bluetooth Bee is bound to a serial port device /dev/rfcomm0

This /dev/rfcomm0 serial port can be accessed by any serial port terminal like cutecom.

Open /dev/rfcomm0 with baud rate:38400, Databits: 8, Stopbits: 1 and No Flow Control

Send character ‘a’

Seeeduino + Bluetooth Bee will reply with «You are connected to Bluetooth Bee»

Connecting Bluetooth Bee to PC (via Bluetooth Dongle) under Windows¶

  • Install the Microsoft Bluetooth default drivers. Open Control Panel -> Bluetooth Devices
  • Check My devices is set up and ready to be found and click Next button
  • Select the «SeeedBlueToothBee» device and click Next.
  • Select Use the passkey found in the documentation and enter 0000
  • Passkeys are exchanged and an outgoing serial port COM5 is assigned for our communication.
  • A task-bar balloon shows that a new Bluetooth Serial Port link is added.
  • COM5 is assigned for communication. This port should be used to communicate PC with Bluetooth Bee.

This COM5 serial port can be accessed by any Serial Port terminal.

Open COM5 with baud rate:38400, Databits: 8, Stopbits: 1 and No Flow Control

Send character ‘a’

Seeeduino + Bluetooth Bee will reply with «You are connected to Bluetooth Bee»

Connecting Bluetooth Bee to PC using UartsBee in Master Mode¶

This demo uses hardware arrangement described in [Hardware Installation — UartSBee. Connect UartSbee to PC using a mini USB cable.

Open a serial terminal and connect to UartSBee serial port device like COM1 in Windows or /dev/ttyUSB0 in GNU/Linux with baud rate:38400, Databits: 8, Stopbits: 1 and No Flow Control

Send \r\n+STWMOD=1\r\n command. This configures the Bluetooth Bee in master mode.

  • Send \r\n+INQ=1\r\n command. Bluetooth Bee searches available Bluetooth devices in neighborhood and list the address of the devices. In this case with +RTINQ=0,19,86,0,19,1E;desktop, where desktop is a PC with Bluetooth interface. While inquiring the red and green led blinks alternatively.
  • Send \r\n+CONN=0,19,86,0,19,1E\r\n where 0,19,86,0,19,1E is the address of desktop.
  • Enter the pin 0000 at PC side and complete the connection.

Bill of Materials (BOM) /parts list¶

Support¶

If you have questions or other better design ideas, you can go to our forum or wish to discuss.

Version Tracker¶

Revision Descriptions Release
v1.0 Initial public release Dec 14, 2009
v1.1 Modify Inquire command and add some notes Mar 15, 2020
v1.2 Modify Hardware and Software features Apr 04, 2020
v1.3 Update the profile, add the return status, delete ECHO command. Apr 21, 2020
v2.0 Update the module as HM-01(The same with the newest Bluetooth shield). The AT command can not compatible with before. Dec 4, 2020

Bug Tracker¶

Bug Tracker is the place you can publish any bugs you think you might have found during use. Please write down what you have to say, your answers will help us improve our products.

Additional Idea¶

Implement a wireless PS/2 Keyboard / Mouse.

Wireless control a toy robot from PC.

How to buy¶

Licensing¶

This documentation is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0 Source code and libraries are licensed under GPL/LGPL, see source code files for details.

Related Projects¶

If you want to make some awesome projects by Bluetooth Bee, here’s some projects for reference.

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Рейтинг бинарных опционов

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Если вы начинающий трейдер – для начала поработайте с русскоязычными брокерами. Также при выборе брокера смотрите есть ли у него демо счёт (бесплатный). При помощи демонстративного счёта – вы сможете поторговать, разобраться с финансовыми инструментами и принципами трейдинга с бинарными опционами. Чтобы открыть демо счёт вам нужно зарегистрироваться у брокера, после чего вам придёт электронное письмо со ссылкой на торговый терминал – обычно это занимает пару минут. Например, у брокера IQ Option регистрироваться не нужно, вы просто скачиваете терминал и тренируетесь, а вот у компании TradeRush вас попросят зарегистрироваться, после чего вам должны позвонить, и вы должны будите сказать им код, который придёт на email.

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Tim Tebow reference? Edit

Look I’m not a fan of either, but hear it is:

Football =========Krogan love human sports games (according to zakera ward game vendor)

Gator mascot =====Krogan look like crocodiles

Orange and blue ===Grunts unlockable armor, which already looks like football pads, is orange and blue

Record setter======Grunt is also a prodigy

I’ll never look at Grunt the same way again. Thank you, unnamed contributor. TheFedExPope 07:37, August 29, 2020 (UTC) Please take comments like this to the proper place, which is the forums or a blog post. Lancer1289 11:50, August 29, 2020 (UTC)

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL, I forgot the part of ME2 where Grunt was revealed to be a huge, Mama’s boy and all round halfwit

Legality Edit

Is it legal to copy/paste an article like that? 114.73.163.118 04:16, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Something I was wondering myself. I think because the source is provided it is ok, but not 100% and as more information is received this page will see a lot of changes.

Ascension Edit

His wikipedia description states he appears or was at least mentioned in Ascension. Does anyone who’s read the book remember in what context? —TheWilsonator 17:18, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Pretty sure that’s a load of you-know-what. Wikipedia is far from reliable, after all. If I am proven wrong, I will gladly retract the previous statements, but I do not recall Grunt being in Ascension at all. SpartHawg948 11:48, November 6, 2009 (UTC) No, no, no. On Wikipedia it says «He is encountered on Omega, a space station located in the Terminus Systems and first mentioned in the novel Mass Effect: Ascension», it means Omega was first mentioned in Ascension, not Grunt. —Joshtopher27 19:48, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Only 22! Edit

Grunt is only 22 years old, which i find refreshing. While Wrex’s age isn’t really nailed down, I think it’s safe to say he’s pretty old. It’ll be cool to see a more youthful Krogan in action. Effectofthemassvariety 03:21, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

So he is basically a krogan teenager? Nice!

In all likelihood that’s not his actual age. As explained by one of the developers [1] the website people may have gotten his age from casting documents and 22 represents a human age equivalent. Anyway, it’s sounding like 22 isn’t is age, and the cinematic trailer lists him as 300+, which isn’t enough evidence to put him as 300+ either, but it shows that his age is still unknown. JakePT 03:33, December 14, 2009 (UTC) You made that up, nothing lists his age as 300+ unless of course you count the backwards number that is after a word that cannot be read. THe official website lists it a 22 therefore that is his age. 68.61.39.252 12:03, December 20, 2009 (UTC) All you have to do is take the frame from the Blur Trailer which shows grunts profile and flip it in paint, and voila, you can clearly read all the info. It clearly says Age:300, Species: Krogan, Genophage: Infertile, Gender: M and other information about grunt. Now 22, might be his age. in Tuchanka years. Since we don’t know the orbital period of Tuchanka this is irrelevant. But notice on Samara’s Bio it says estimated 600 human years for age, but not for other alien characters. Now, considering that Krogan can live for over 1000 years, a 300 year old Krogan might be the equivalent of a 22 year old human. Consider the following: Humans can live 150 years. A 22 year old human has lived about .15 of its life expectancy. Now, if a 300 year old Krogan is equivalent to a 22 year old human, that means the average life expectancy is about 2000 years for Krogan. Considering that Wrex has been speculated to be about 1400 years old, this isn’t an unreasonable estimate.—71.234.106.119 07:29, December 24, 2009 (UTC) I have been over this with people and nobody can find any source for krogans being able to reach ages of over a thousand years, in fact that seems to be based on the assumption that all krogan alive were born before the genophage. Youcannot take the trailer as actual fact, it is only a trailer a promotional video that has no real weight when it comes to the mass effect universe, do you remeber the decisions tv spot for the first game, noveria was incorrect and i ont think the other planet even exsisted. The official age is 22 years, thats from the official website. Thats the stuff that the creators of the game have written, and thats how old he is. ralok 14:23, December 24, 2009 (UTC) I suppose we’ll find out won’t we! And I do think that the Majority of the Krogan alive were born before the Genophage, because that’s the reason there’s as many as there is. The main reason their race is dying is because their breeding rates are nowhere near enough to keep up their population. As the older Krogan are dying there are none to replace them. No the breeding rate is not a problem,they are capable of reproducing offspring, if they live a few centuries then it is reasonableto assume that if the krogan would sit still organize themselves and stop killing each other they couldactually have population growth, minus hte trauma of failed pregnancies. Wrex has said it, it isnt the genophage thats killing them, its themselves being idiots. ralok 16:19, December 26, 2009 (UTC) Well that is a gross oversimplification of the problem. As is made clear several times, the genophage is killing the krogan, all that is affected by their behaviour is how quickly it happens. Even if Wrex gets his way and the krogan settle down and start attempting to have kids rather than killing each other, it’s still going to be virtually (if not utterly) impossible for them to have any population growth. The fact that only 1 in 1000 pregnancies produces a child sees to that. All that would happen is that the decline would slow. You can’t expect to see any population growth when a finite number of krogan women have to keep getting pregnant, carrying to term, and giving birth with only a 1 in 1000 chance of producing live offspring. No, it’s safe to say the breeding rate is the problem. It’s a numbers game, and the krogan are on the losing end. SpartHawg948 20:30, December 26, 2009 (UTC) Well clearly there is a difference of opinion here. ralok 02:17, December 28, 2009 (UTC) I suppose you can call it that, if you must, although the facts seem pretty clear. To quote the Codex, «The genophage makes only one in 1,000 pregnancies viable, and today the krogan are a slowly dying breed.» Hmmm. slowly dying, eh? And note how the genophage is the sole reason listed as to why the krogan are dying. Again, you can’t sustain a population with ever dwindling numbers, and a 1 in 1000 chance of having a child assures dwindling numbers. SpartHawg948 02:29, December 28, 2009 (UTC) But you dont know how many pregnancies a krogan female is capable of a year, and they can live to be at least three hundred years (according to what info I have dug up)so there isnt enough information to say the genophage is the sole reason their race is dying, it sounds traumatic (999 failures for every succes) but that is human standards. ralok 02:36, December 28, 2009 (UTC) No I don’t know how many pregnancies a krogan female is capable of. What I do know is that, according to the OFFICIAL BioWare sources, «The genophage makes only one in 1,000 pregnancies viable, and today the krogan are a slowly dying breed.» Slowly dying. Dying as in extinct. And it doesn’t say anything in any entry about the krogan being able to do anything about it, even by doing what Wrex wants. In fact, Wrex is the only one who states that there may be a cultural aspect, and he’s hardly unbiased. Official sources say the genophage is driving the krogan to extinction, not their culture. As someone said recently on another talk page, you did not create Mass Effect, ralok, BioWare did. BioWare says the genophage is killing the krogan, not their culture. Simple as that. SpartHawg948 02:42, December 28, 2009 (UTC) But that was the ingame codex, i would think the testimony of a member of the species would overide what is written in the history book. I have stated my case, it is probably wrong but there it is thats what i have to say, also please do not revert that edit on the main page though, i wouldnt mind if it was in the trivia that his youth is a rarity amonngst krogan, but saying he is one of hte few alive born after the genophage is on outwardly an innocent peice of trivia, but beneath the surface is a brooding world of arguements speculation and confusion ralok It is in the in-game codex. So? The in-game codex is basically considered the ultimate canon source for ME. Dialogue is often unreliable and biased. Wrex is providing support for a radical (for the krogans anyways) political/social philosophy he is espousing, which again, means that his word is hardly unbiased. The codex, on the other hand, is considered the best source aside from actually having it depicted in front of you during gameplay. Additionally, several sources support the theory that regardless of social practices, the genophage is killing the krogan. Only Wrex says anything different, and even he admits that the only way to assure the survival of his people is with Saren’s cure. So again, the official sources say that yes, it is the birthrate that is killing the krogan, not the social practices of the krogan, which is demonstrated multiple times to be pure speculation. SpartHawg948 03:07, December 28, 2009 (UTC) I argue different, only because it is generally confirmed in ascension that the codex is in fact an in universe tool, most likely written by humans. I expect that this is actually a prelude to explain the differences in the mass effect 2 codec, but for now I feel that a very neutral position should be taken on this subject, such as writing that the krogans problems are only worsened by their society and culture. but this is actually a large divergence from the orginal topic sentence of this talk, so I suggest that this conversation be postponed until a future time in which new information that conflict with either of our previous statements is presented, i am now going back to playing Freshly-Picked Tingle’s Rosy Rupeeland. ralok 03:20, December 28, 2009 (UTC) Of course the codex is an in-universe tool. That in no way, shape or form invalidates it’s information. It’s an in-game encyclopedia. That’s why we have the policy that Codex articles are copied verbatim, and that the Codex is always right, unless directly contradicted by the game (ie the rachni). SpartHawg948 03:27, December 28, 2009 (UTC) What i mean is that the codex actually exsists in the universe, rather than exsisting as a tool for the player to understand the universe better (i am sure thats what you mean aswell) however that does mean «human» error is possible (as it has been shown by the game) so basically, we have no idea until more information is presented. ralok 03:39, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

I’m guessing they lay eggs like a turtle, have like 500 eggs and forget about them, that or like a crocodile, lay a bunch of eggs and protect and go bereserk on whoever is near them, if they’re alive, if they’re dead, eat them and try again

err, Mordin clearly states that the genophage isn’t as horrible as everyone thinks, it just keeps the krogan population normal. Sooo, is the codex incorrect? (as Mordin created a genophage) X0 RG 0x 22:13, February 9, 2020 (UTC)

Yes. The codex seems to represent a ‘general consensus’ type of knowledge within the Mass Effect galaxy. For example, it lists the reapers as a myth and the Rachni as extinct. In mass effect 2 it describes the battle of the citadel according to the way teh council sees it (Saren was in command and Sovereign was just a big Geth ship.) It is an encyclopedia, not the actual factual knowledge as gained by Shepard. And it isn’t just Mordin who thinks the Genophage will not kill of the Krogan. Okeer has the same opinion and seems to think that quality instead of quantity is what the Krogan should be aiming for. 134.58.253.57 09:29, February 15, 2020 (UTC)

In the last Sci Fi Video about ME2, we can see Grunt in a Cryo Tub and Shepard «waking him up». I think that Grunt is in fact young, but come from the «past», may be from the period of the war between the council and the Krogan Cyphius 05:12, January 20, 2020 (UTC)

By the by, you’re all wrong. If anything his age is measured in weeks if not days if you take into consideration that the flawed Krogans determine their age by the time they where released from their tubes. Born fully grown and ready to kill.

Grunt on Tuchanka Edit

New trailer says Grunt is recruited on Tuchanka http://kotaku.com/5425151/the-mass-effect-2-cinematic-trailer-at-the-vga. If this gets taken down, this is from the VGA that just aired tonight on Spike. Illusive Man voices over Shepard recruiting by talking to Miranda about locations he goes to and recruits, Illium and shows Thane, Purgatory and shows a shadowy bionic. Looked rather manish to me, but probably SuZe. Finally «sunny» Tuchanka where it shows Grunt fighting a Thresher Maw. I will back all this up by reminding that it has been stated Grunt is MET on Omega but Shepard is there for a salarian operative.—Xaero Dumort 02:47, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

Class Edit

Grunt is a Vanguard, correct? I saw the intro video, but on his wiki page there was no mention, so I’m a bit confused. H-Man Havoc 17:35, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

I dont think so, I ont think he has biotic abilities of any type, he might have once but if hhe id that means there would be five biotic teammates in Mass Effect 2, thats alot . . . wait vangaurd are biotic right. I dont know im horribly confused. ralok 14:27, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Vanguards are biotic warriors. I haven’t seen much of his biotic powers, but he is classified as a battlemaster due to those traits. In the cinematic trailer released on Xbox LIVE, then subsequently on other sites, he gets shot at but then its shown that he has a barrier ability. Additionally, Vanguards are particularly skilled with shotguns, and that so happens to be the weapon he’s using.

H-Man Havoc 20:29, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Yes he gets shot and his kinetic barrier briefly shows, thats all that i can see in the cinematic. If you recall all characters have shields, in fact there is a specific moment in bring down the sky where you get shot and your shield saves you. ralok 21:58, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

I’m not discrediting this, but when Shepard gets shot, the Kinetic barrier appears to be more faint, while Grunt’s is more purple. I believe this is the barrier ability at work.

H-Man Havoc 01:47, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

No, simply no. You are over analyzing somehting very minor. He is not biotic, there is four biotics on the team already. Plus that would make him to similiar to wrex. ralok 01:54, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

There’s actually 5 biotics (Miranda, Jacob, SuZe, Thane, and Samara). So yeah, Grunt is definitely not biotic. As for a class, I’m sure he’s some sort of soldier variant.—Matt 2108 01:59, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

Who’s SuZE? Besides, I guess he’s not. H-Man Havoc 02:26, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

I think he means subject zero given she is the only one unaccounted for. Dtemps123 01:40, March 25, 2020 (UTC)

Back thing Edit

is it my imagination or is his back alot smaller than that of an average krogan. ralok 14:50, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

No, his «back thing» (or hump, as it is referred to in the game and by. well, by pretty much everyone) does appear to be smaller. Probably due to age, if I had to guess, but maybe we’ll find out in ME2. SpartHawg948 19:44, December 24, 2009 (UTC) I would have used the word hump, but i was traumatized by the usage of that word during my youth (dont ask to long of a story) so i just avoid using that word ralok 03:01, December 28, 2009 (UTC) The ‘hump’ is likely smaller due to genetics and such, a smaller hump on a Krogan is like a smaller hump on a camel, the programers probably just loaded one simple template in ME and now we might see greater variation, in the main characters atleast.Kre ‘Nunumee 04:07, January 20, 2020 (UTC) There is no evidence that the size of the hump is genetic. Nor is the size of a camel’s hump a genetic matter, at least not purely one of genetics. The hump of a camel is, of course, full of fat, which provides the camel with energy/sustenance when necessary. When the fatty stores start to get used up, the hump gets smaller. It is also theorized that the hump minimizes the amount of heat trapped by the rest of their bodies, as the insulating fat is contained in one area, as opposed to being all over the camels body, which would be an advantageous feature for an animal that lives in the desert. Likewise, we know exactly what the krogan hump is for, as the codex entry on krogan biology makes it pretty clear: «The hump on krogan’s back stores water and fats that help the krogan survive lean times. Large humps are a point of pride; being well-fed implies the krogan is a superior predator.» Note the absence of references to genetics. SpartHawg948 06:04, January 20, 2020 (UTC)

Bony Ridge Edit

There has been no indication yet as to why Grunt’s «forehead ridge» looks different than those seen on other krogans. It could possibly be an age thing (although as you will note above, the age issue is somewhat contentious), it could be due to Grunt belonging to some krogan offshoot, or it could be any of a number of other things- malnutrition (which could also be responsible for his smaller than normal back hump), genetic abnormality and/or birth defect, some sort of deficiency within his system, prior injury, purposeful cosmetic alteration, etc. So please people, let’s avoid the speculation. There is a blanket statement in place that says the reason for the difference is not yet known. Once we do know more, that can be updated. Till then though, any guesswork is. SPECULATION. (bet nobody saw that coming! 😛 ) SpartHawg948 22:43, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

It’d be pretty interesting to see Bioware push it as a cosmetic body alteration practiced by the krogan, in the same vein of human reconstructive modification; we’d have a lot more cool-looking krogan. MarinesNeverDie 01:24, December 30, 2009 (UTC) Perhaps they’ve just upped the resolution and detailing of alien features this time so you can see even the minutest of minute details? Phylarion 11:39, January 16, 2020 (UTC) That could be, but the only other krogan we’ve really seen from ME2 so far (the supposed Gatatog Uvenk from the Stars of Mass Effect Video[2], who is shown while Michael Dorn is talking) appears to have the same type of forehead ridge that Wrex and all the other non-Grunt krogans we’ve seen thus far have. If this is the case, it does suggest that something is different about Grunt. SpartHawg948 11:50, January 16, 2020 (UTC) What I’m seeing in the Trivia section is suggesting that his appearance and genetic engineering are directly related, though I’m not seeing any official information. If they are related, I find it odd then that no one on Tuchanka seems to think anything of his appearance. Everyone is able to correctly ascertain his age (usually refers to him as a «whelp») and the Shaman calls him «lifelike» which would suggest that he at least looks like he should (though the latter is obviously semantics). It’s possible that these plates, like human bones, fuse together as the krogan ages (the ridges are similar in shape to a grown krogan’s). I assume this because Grunt also doesn’t have a pronounced hump, evidenced by the shape of his suit, possibly due to him being tank-bred and not having a natural krogan upbringing (he’d have no need for the hump at this point anyway). Might just be an age thing. Of course, the krogan envoy to the female clans is also of a young age but looks «normal,» though we don’t know what the exact age is to begin with. CipherCero 05:21, March 22, 2020 (UTC) My personal theory is that, assuming he is in fact a «young» krogan, the boniness of the crest is a result of the genetic alterations caused by the genophage. Pax.ephemeral 16:14, January 26, 2020 (UTC) Its most likely that he is a tank-bred krogan. Im sure the Krogan Comandeer who bred him (Okeer, was it?) didn’t make a perfect replica. Kit-Kat-Kun 03:16, January 28, 2020 (UTC)

Ibeeis I’m pretty sure it’s because of his age. If you wander around Tuchanka a bit and have conversations with local Krogan (Uvenk and Shaman in particular) while Grunt is in your party they’ll often mention «growing plates» in the same fashion you’d use any other «go grow up» metaphor. «Plates» here obviously being their forehead armor. It might be better to ask around at ME2 official forums so that we have a definite source to quote before adding anything though. 19:48, January 31, 2020 (UTC)

Protected Page Edit

Ok, here’s the deal. I hate protecting pages (this is only the 9th time a page has been protected here in over two years), but for some reason unregistered users seem to want to A) Delete content for no reason (use edit summaries people, PLEASE. ) and B) Add in pointless speculation (there are all kinds of reasons the ridge could be different, which is why the catch-all «the reason is unknown» statement. why then add one speculative reason and not others?), so for the time being the page is being protected, which will prevent new and unregistered users from editing the page. Hopefully soon some new info will come up that will allow this to be lifted. Worst case, I don’t really see this protection being necessary past 26 Jan, when ME2 releases. SpartHawg948 04:12, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

Honestly I doubt that they will explain it, personally i think it is his age, or malnutrition. I wouldnt bother protecting the page. Since i dont have a job and am essentially worthless to the proffeessional world in my current state of being i will help out whenever i can, i think i have already reverted it like three times (maybe only once). So the fact is that you might have to protect the page after ME2 is released, because they probably wont explain it, But wait until then. ralok 04:26, December 30, 2009 (UTC) Well, it’s been popping up at least five times a day lately, and I’ve pretty much been the only one having to clean up the mess, although one or two other users have also helped once or twice. As for waiting, I think you misunderstood. I wasn’t asking for opinions on something I was considering, I was explaining an action I had already done. It’s kind of hard to wait to do something you’ve already done! 😛 And while it may not be explained, it seems likely that there will be at least some indication of why he is different, as BioWare is fairly good at tying up loose ends. We’ll just have to wait and see. SpartHawg948 05:25, December 30, 2009 (UTC) I was thinking about this earlier when I saw that someone yet again edited the section about the bony ridge. it’s like some weird conspiracy was going on. Matt 2108 06:54, December 30, 2009 (UTC) Indeed. I don’t normally like talking about conspiracies (I always feel like I need to wear a tin-foil hat when I do :P) but it does at least appear a little odd, so many anon users inserting pretty much the exact same thing multiple times a day, or deleting the same section time after time. Oh well, it’s probably nothing. SpartHawg948 07:39, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

Voice Actor Edit

Okay, does anyone know who is the voice behind Grunt. I heard plenty of suggestions, and right now I think it’s Clancy Brown[3] (aka the Kurgan and DCAU Lex Luthor). This is particularly obvious in the «Meet Grunt» trailer. Someone please put me out of my misery and tell me.—88.107.173.106 16:35, January 7, 2020 (UTC)

I’m not sure if it’s legit, but I found this on Steve Blum’s website: «Also pick up Mass Effect 2. Beautiful game! I’m Grunt in that one. Love that guy! He has issues, just like me!»—Morlan 23:11, January 7, 2020 (UTC) Seems pretty legit if it’s his official site. Damn, his credits list on wikipedia is insane.—Matt 2108 23:18, January 7, 2020 (UTC) I see a few people on the BW forums have speculated that Blum is Grunt’s VA as well. It just seems strange to have him voice similar (violent berserker-types) companions in back-to-back BW games (Oghren in DA:O).—Morlan 23:55, January 7, 2020 (UTC) Clancy Brown would have been a huge get. you think he would have been in the voice actor trailer.—Matt 2108 16:37, January 7, 2020 (UTC)

Mercenary? Edit

how is he a mercenary if he joins you right as he’s born. krogan super-soldier is what i’d put instead

Big Game Hunters Edit

A big game hunter is a hunter who hunts large animals. The thresher maw is quite large. So I doubt this is a reference to anything aside from the term. It is a very vague similarity between the achievement and a map in Starcraft. Therefore I will delete this «reference». If you disagree feel free to revert my edit.99.145.176.205 05:06, February 1, 2020 (UTC)

Killing Grunt Edit

The article says, «It is possible to fail to persuade Grunt to join the party if Shepard is not careful with dialogue options after waking him up, resulting in Shepard killing the krogan.» So which dialogue options do that? I’ve explored all of them, and while some lead to Shepard shooting Grunt, none lead to his death. First set is Grunt wanting a name: «You’ll get more than that,» and «Of course.» Second set is «Why ‘Grunt’?» and «You want to die?» Third set is «Join my crew. We’ll find it,» «You feel nothing for Okeer,» «My command is your reason,» «Stand down or else» and «I released you. You owe me.» The last two will lead to a Renegade interrupt, «You leave me no choice,» and «I was being generous»; all of which result in Shepard shooting Grunt, but not fatally. So what am I missing? —Seburo 18:03, February 14, 2020 (UTC)

Try leaving him in the tank for a mission or two — maybe it changes how he acts upon release. — AdoWit

I haven’t bee able to kill him either, but I’m 90% sure that its dependant on when you open the tank. See my note on leaving Zaeed to die in the flames (Zaeed’s loyalty mission talk page), as its likely the conditions are the same. Nialia 11:31, February 18, 2020 (UTC)

When I updated his recruitment article I tried a few ways to see what would happen. Killing Grunt is completely dependent on your converstion options when you open the tank, not how much time has past. When he is in the tank it is like he is in stasis so nothing really happens while he is in there. You need to use the Paragon or Renegade Persuasion options to get him to stay and not and up killing him, just retried it last night to be sure. If you don’t use the persuasions then it is a little more difficult. Lancer1289 15:47 February 23, 2020 (UTC)

Could you give step-by-step instructions on how to kill grunt, please.Darthmaul12332 00:48, February 25, 2020 (UTC)

I’ve tried really hard to get him killed now. I’ve used all different conversation options, and at various times during the game, including after the collector mission. I’m almost certain you can’t kill him, though I don’t know why Lancer thinks you can (shooting him does not mean he dies). Nialia 21:30, February 25, 2020 (UTC)

I belive the strategy guide even says he can be killed, but it doesn’t say how. 69.129.164.205 16:15, February 26, 2020 (UTC)

Loyalty Bug? Edit

Right, who else has had this? After gaining Grunt’s loyalty — his Fortification power doesn’t unlock, as it says he’s not loyal. In the squad line-up he shows as loyal, his appearance can be changed, yet his «special power» remains inaccessible. This seems a random occurrence: happened on my second playthrough but not my first. I’m on X360 but I’ve also read elsewhere on the extranet of it happening to PC players. Thoughts? ComaDivine 05:45, February 23, 2020 (UTC)

That happened to me on my second playthrough. Second costume unlocked, sqauad status shows loyal, but no Fortification. The completion screen after the mission said his loyalty power was unlocked, but in the level-up screen it says it is locked due to character not being loyal. Talking to him after the mission triggered the post-mission dialogue, about being proud to be Urdnot and having purpose and such, but after that he never refers to my character as Battlemaster. Vund223 15:33, February 23, 2020 (UTC) I can confirm the same. I’m not sure what caused the bug exactly since at first I was able to upgrade the skill. It’s also available amongst the ones Sheppard can train. It may have nothing to do with this but I recently installed the Zaeed add-on and noticed his power was greyed out after doing a planet mission with Grunt after finishing the Loyalty quest. Grunt still counts as loyal in the crew status screen but like you say his power is greyed out. This is due to doing Mordin and Grunt loyalty at the same time (or bringing both on the Krogan homeworld on each other’s mission). Loading before and coming back to Normandy between missions fixes it. I have tested this to happen with missions one after the other (the end of mission leaves you on the planet) and then immediately taking on the next. Moreover, once Grunt is loyal, one can see the Fortification unlocked and spend points. Once Mordin’s is done, Fortification is locked again and points returned to unspent. I have also tested that returning to Normandy and doing another mission in between will NOT trigger the bug. I haven’t tried doing missions in sequence with only returning to Normandy, but it makes sense for the game to update stats upon return, as it updates gained research and other bonuses like experience.

I took Grunt with me (xbox 360) to Mordin’s loyalty quest, after completing his loyalty quest. I run renegade, so I don’t bother pandering to the scout. Now I have a loyal Grunt, with his new armor, but his Fortification is still locked as «not loyal.» I haven’t talked to him in the hold yet, as I tripped the collection ship quest, and now I have no Tuchanka saves. I’m 20 hours in, and hoping this won’t affect ME3. Shadizar666 (Ruck Rules) 01:36, September 23, 2020 (UTC)

Doesn’t affect ME3. Shadizar666 (Ruck Rules) 03:53, September 26, 2020 (UTC)

Grunt’s opinion on the Collector base Edit

So in the article, it states that if you choose not to destroy the Collector base, Grunt will approve, saying that if an enemy gives you a weapon, you use it. However, when I did just that, Grunt didn’t approve at all. He said that Cerberus and the Illusive Man were weak, depending on Shepard for everything, and that therefor it was foolish to turn the base over to them. Anyone else get that? SpartHawg948 07:30, March 2, 2020 (UTC)

Just chiming in — I got the same. —<> 12:18, March 3, 2020 (UTC) I remember him saying that we should keep the base, but I don’t remember him saying anything about how Cerberus was weak. Might have to do with who else is on your team (so you always have one team member saying to go one way and another saying to go another).Namfuak 21:42, March 7, 2020 (UTC) But this wasn’t right as it happened, it was when I was back on the Normandy. And it wasn’t just Grunt. Nobody on the squad spoke very favorably of Cerberus getting the station. Grunt called Cerberus weak, and most everybody else said something along the lines of «I don’t like this idea. I hope you know what you’re doing.» So I don’t think it has anything to do with squad member composition. SpartHawg948 21:55, March 7, 2020 (UTC) That’s just what the game does. In order to «balance» the situation, the game assigns opinions to each squad member, providing the player two sides with which to view the situation. ME1 did this as well—there’s a video on YouTube that somehow wound up with Tali being the only squad member, and the game compensated by having her fill in both sides of the dialogue. CipherCero 05:25, March 22, 2020 (UTC)

I had the same thing happen on my first run through (XBOX 360),

I’m guessing this was an oversight in the character dialogue. In spite of whatever opinion your squadmates (including Grunt) voiced prior to your destroying the Collector Base, they all (if memory serves) approve wholeheartedly. I haven’t saved the base to date, so I can’t comment on that eventuality. Incrognito 04:43, March 11, 2020 (UTC)

Biotics Edit

I was just reading a bit about krogan and i started to get the idea that battlemasters are the epitome of the krogan soldier (see Urdnot Wrex ;-)). This said, battlemasters need to have biotics. Okeer would have known this so when engineering the perfect krogan would it not make sense to give him biotic potential? When i learned how loyalty powers worked i figured his loyalty would involve his discovery of his biotics (and something he can work for). His actual loyalty is something i am more than happy with but i just was wondering if anyone was thinking the same thing? About wether or not grunt has biotics or not and if not why? Rheyzer 01:21, March 9, 2020 (UTC)

Well, you have to figure that nowhere is it stated that a krogan battlemaster has to be a biotic. Grunt will still refer to a non-biotic Shepard as his battlemaster, with none of the other krogan batting an eye at this. A battlemaster would seem to be the epitome of the krogan soldier, but biotics don’t seem to be a must. Battlemasters seem to be somewhat common, given what we learn in ME2, with probably at least one for each clan, as a krogan who has just finished the right of passage has to then serve under a battlemaster, whereas krogan biotics are stated to be rare. And nowhere in the Codex descriptions of Battle Masters (as the Codex calls them) does the subject of biotics come up. So no, I hadn’t really figured that his loyalty assignment would involve biotics, especially since we don’t know whether any of the krogan whose genes were used to create him were biotic or not. Given the fact that krogan biotics are rare and are viewed with suspicion and fear by other krogan, plus the fact that he’s been shown thus far not to be biotic, no, I don’t think Grunt is a biotic. SpartHawg948 01:31, March 9, 2020 (UTC) A well thought out argument on the internet. Its refreshing. Anyway i want to say that the bit about loyalty was just me shooting the breeze and letting my imagination get away from myself. I knew i read about biotics and battlemasters being connected somewhere and i found this on the «Krogan Battlemaster» page of this wiki. «As the Codex details, the Battle Masters were officers of the krogan military. Tough, disciplined, well-armed, and biotically gifted, a single Battle Master is said to be an equal match to ten soldiers of any other species.» I do not know if this is in the game’s codex or not as i do not have the game in front of me atm but this is what the article says. I also find it uncanny that all krogan battlemasters you fight in-game have barriers, and thus are biotically endowed, where all other krogan do not have barriers and are called something else, lost of troopers and warriors, a few berserkers and one bounty hunter (in ME2 anyway). EDIT: also if you look at the known battlemasters they are all biotic with the exception of a non-biotic Shepard which is more symbolic than anything i feel (it was cool though cuz i was playing a vanguard which is comparable to a battlemaster (shotguns and biotics and whatnot)) Rheyzer 20:06, March 9, 2020 (UTC) Yeah, that line doesn’t appear anywhere in the Codex. There is a line that resembles it: «Since the genophage, the krogan can no longer afford the casualties of the old horde attacks. The Battle Masters are a match for any ten soldiers of another species. To a Battle Master, killing is a science. They focus on developing clean, brute-force economy of motion that exploits their brutal strength to incapacitate enemies with a swift single blow of overwhelming power.» (I quoted the entire paragraph so there could be no doubt as to whether it was taken out of context or not.) As for Shepard, that hardly seemed symbolic to me. It was «Shepard is my battlemaster» and then «Ok». (paraphrasing there) No wrangling over «Well, you need a real battlemaster, no having to go to Wrex to have it decided that yes, Shepard can symbolically be the battlemaster. The Urdnot Shaman, whose job is enforcing clan tradition and all that, has no problem with a non-biotic battlemaster. And while all battlemasters seen in-game have been biotic, it is implied that there are many more (as we’ve only seen a few, and krogan biotics are rare. But anyways, those are my thoughts on the subject. SpartHawg948 20:18, March 9, 2020 (UTC) Also most of the Krogan biotics we see are mercenaries, and therefore probably considered outsiders amongst clan Krogan (note that Garm isn’t introduced with a clan name). Gatatog Uvenk is an exception, but even he wasn’t well-liked or trusted by clan Urdnot. Vund223 21:19, March 9, 2020 (UTC) I suppose my view may be skewed a bit but when Grunt says «Shepard is my battlemaster; he has no match.», and I had Wrex here, the way things seemed to play out i get a vibe like Wrex understands A) How strong Sheppard is and B) How important Grunt is (i.e. Okeer’s vison for Grunt) and therefore makes an exception to how tradition usually runs. Also as strict as Shaman Urdnot is he admits to shepard in an e-mail that out of necessity he cannot be as strict or formal as he once was. As for wether or not shepard’s battlemaster status is symbolic or not is something we will have to dsagree upon. On the note of Wrex being a bounty hunter, this is common. The codex (under «The Genophage») says that. «But, faced with the certainty of their extinction as a species, most krogan have become individualistic and completely self-interested. They typically serve as mercernaries for hire to the highest bidder. » Also Skarr from the book Revelation was a battlemaster and also a biotic. When it is discovered that he is a biotic it is taken into particular note that he is both a battlemaster and biotic. Even if biotic ability is not imperative to becoming a battlemaster wouldn’t it make sense for him to be biotic? Okeer was very old and very smart and would have known that, even if biotics are not entirely undersood or respected in culture, they could only make his perfect krogan better and stronger. As side note about Uvenk, he was not trusted by clan Urdnot more by kogan nature than the fact that he was biotic. Wrex is shown to have respect or biotic users (he remarks in me1 that with how strong Kaiden is he is suprised the humans stopped using L2s) and he still distrusts Uvenk. Rheyzer 00:04, March 10, 2020 (UTC) Don’t forget, Wrex fought alonside Shepard. Wreav, on the other hand, had no prior association with Shepard, and actually got along with Uvenk, since Wreav did not believe in Wrex’s ideals. With that said, Wreav also has no problem with Shepard being Grunt’s Battlemaster. Also, Wreav does not like Grunt, and believes Okeer was an embarrasment to Krogans. He only accepts him into the clan because he completed the Rite, and he is therefore bound by tradition. Vund223 03:27, March 10, 2020 (UTC) Well really thats my point with Wrex and it annoys me that there is virtually no difference as to wether or not he is still alive. But Wreav trusts Uvenk even though he is biotic. Also, no matter how you cut it Shepard is not an officer in the krogan military. Really the only way he takes command from any krogan is when Urdnot Shaman sends him an e-mail requesting that he not let grunt die and therefore he understands Grunt’s importance in spite of Wreav. Rheyzer 11:48, March 10, 2020 (UTC) Shepard isn’t an officer in the krogan military. And? Most (if not all) the battlemasters you run into in-game (the ones you mentioned above) weren’t officers in the krogan military, they were mercenaries and bounty hunters. SpartHawg948 19:52, March 10, 2020 (UTC) Thats the purpose of my quoting the codex as to the fact that many krogan have split from their clans and gone merc much like everyone’s favorite krogan, Wrex. Look this is not the point of this discussion. If you want to have this discussion then move to the krogan battlemaster discussion page. my point is that i don’t understand why a perfect krogan doesn’t have biotics. 69.116.121.3 04:39, March 11, 2020 (UTC) Well, it could have something to do with the fact that, according to the Codex, krogan biotics «are viewed with suspicion and fear». Or, it could simply be that none of the krogan whose genetic material was used to make Grunt were biotic. SpartHawg948 04:47, March 11, 2020 (UTC)

I vaguely remember a Krogan Biotic reference in ME1. It essentially stated that Biotic Krogan are viewed with fear, and thus any Biotic Krogan is put in as an officer in the military because fear is a viable leadership tool among Krogan. End memory. Not all Krogan Battlemasters are Biotics, but most Krogan Biotics are skyrocketed through Officer ranks because of this ability. So while one often leads to another (Biotic -> Battlemaster), they are not mutually inclusive (Battlemaster does not inherently mean Biotic). I believe the fact that all Battlemasters in the game are biotics is just to simplify the game and they can just stick the «Battlemaster» class on a Krogan to up the difficulty. Remember that game mechanics and game lore are not mutually inclusive. In Mass Effect, we never really see any female Volus or female Hanar, does this lack of female species mean they don’t exist? If your mutually inclusive statement is true, then this lack of females should also be true, no? —Geotexan 23:33, March 3, 2020 (UTC)

I actually quote the line you were vaguely remembering in the post immediately preceding yours. The Codex notes that krogan biotics (and do remember, race names aren’t capitalized — it’s krogan, hanar, and volus, not Krogan, Hanar, and Volus) «are viewed with suspicion and fear». It then continues, noting «The krogan see this aura of fear as a useful quality for an officer, and often promote them.» Just for clarification, it does not say that «Biotic Krogan are viewed with fear, and thus any Biotic Krogan is put in as an officer in the military because fear is a viable leadership tool among Krogan.» Just that krogan biotics are often made officers. SpartHawg948 23:40, March 3, 2020 (UTC)

Article Title Edit

If it’s common practice to title a article using the whole (known) name of the character, shouldn’t this article be titled «Urdnot Grunt» rather than «Grunt»? Sure it’s his adopted clan name, but that doesn’t make it any less valid. He is reffered to as such by other krogan, and calls himself by the name. Just putting it out there—Effectofthemassvariety 08:39, March 9, 2020 (UTC)

No, because it’s only his full name if you complete the loyalty assignment. If not, his full name is Grunt. Since his name is always going to be Grunt, with the Urdnot being conditional (and, btw, a spoiler), it’d be inappropriate, to say the least, to rename this article Urdnot Grunt. SpartHawg948 09:04, March 9, 2020 (UTC) Oh, yeah. I hadn’t considered that. I supposee it would be inappropriate.—Effectofthemassvariety 21:04, March 9, 2020 (UTC)

Urdnot Grunt Edit

Quixk question, shouldn’t we rename his page Urdnot Grunt, considering he does become «part» of the Urdnot clan.

I believe that this has come up before. The article stays as is because Grunt: Rite of Passage is really optional and he only becomes a member of the Urdont clan after it. That is a spoiler by nature. Lancer1289 05:11, April 8, 2020 (UTC) Actually it is right above this question. Lancer1289 05:11, April 8, 2020 (UTC) Yup. There are spoiler and canon issues with this one. SpartHawg948 05:13, April 8, 2020 (UTC)

Grunt’s Charge Edit

Can anyone else comment if they have witnessed Grunt’s charge doing fire damage that is seemingly indepedent of incencendiary ammo? I thought it was because of ammo at first but I’ve seen husks and krogan getting torched when he hits them while his gun had squad warp ammo equipped. He also has some fire related taunts he shouts before charging — «burn and die» and «now you’ll fry.» Dr. Abysmal 08:35, April 13, 2020 (UTC)

I haven’t used him enough to answer that, but if you had any squad points in his ammo power, that might be the cause. Allies have a very nasty habit of equiping thier own ammo powers to override squad ammo. I have a feeling that if it does occasionally set people on fire from just the charge, that it is a glitch. I’ll have to spend a few missions with him to see later. Skelethin 08:41, April 13, 2020 (UTC) I’ve noticed that any NPC that’s been hit with Incendiary Ammo enough to «burn,» even after the flames have been extinguished, turn to ashes on a killing hit. Might just be that. CipherCero 20:28, April 18, 2020 (UTC)

New insight into Grunt’s «design» Edit

The paragraph on Grunt provides some interesting insights. No connection is made between him being tank-bred and the plates on his head. Specifically it does mention them in relation to how a human skull fuses through growth. I’d suggested before that young krogan are born with plates that with age fuse together to form the titular krogan «crown.» Thoughts on this? CipherCero 23:06, April 16, 2020 (UTC)

Honestly, that what I figured it was the first time I saw him in the game. Its the same reason he has smooth lips and relatively smooth jaw. At least compared to other krogan. Skelethin 15:25, April 17, 2020 (UTC)

Releasing from the Tank Edit

Is it possible to keep Grunt in the tank for as long as until you meet Legion?

Yes, you can go through the whole game without ever waking him up. Lancer1289 22:34, July 27, 2020 (UTC)

Blue Eyes Edit

Some species of animal are all born with blue eyes, and they change with exposure to light, and age. This may be why Grunt is the only krogan we’ve seen with blue eyes. I know it’s true of cats, and i’m fairlycertain it’s true of humans, too. Beroya 19:46, September 19, 2020 (UTC)

The first moments out of the tank image Edit

It has Shepard’s arms (which are clearly Male Shep’s) in it. Is it really fine? —Kiadony 11:01, January 10, 2020 (UTC)

I don’t really see why it wouldn’t be. It’s far less obscure than the images of Shepard we permit in a select few other articles. If someone has a comparable image that doesn’t have any part of Shep in it, sure, it can be swapped out, but I don’t really see the need to remove this one, at least not without a more suitable alternative. SpartHawg948 11:04, January 10, 2020 (UTC) I tend to agree with this one. The image has very little when it comes to Shepard, but I do agree with Spart. If someone does have a better image, then I’m all for it. Lancer1289 17:26, January 10, 2020 (UTC)

Dr. Okeer’s Legacy Question. Edit

Under Investigate Collector Ship it says » The Collector Ship mission triggers after you have completed 5 missions or assignments since Horizon.» and that «If you don’t wake up Grunt, he doesn’t count as a team member.» I am wondering if waking him will count against my 5 missions or assignments. Does waking him complete a mission or assignment, leaving me only 4 more I can do before next story progression? Please and thanks for any help.—BornAProphet 05:57, January 14, 2020 (UTC)

I was able to complete Dossier: The Warlord last (still pre-Horizon) as well as Dr. Okeer’s Legacy without it messing up Horizon, so I guess there is no need to worry if it will count as a completed mission or assignment post Horizon. —BornAProphet 08:05, January 16, 2020 (UTC)

Comparison pic between Grunt and normal sized krogan Edit

I was wondering if somebody could make such a picture, because it would help picturing his super-soldierness and I can’t do so because I am on xbox

The problem is that we couldn’t put it into the article, and Grunt appears to be no different than many of the other krogan we see. I’m sure there are differences of course, but they are small considering you can see Grunt next to several other krogan. Lancer1289 20:21, March 8, 2020 (UTC)

I think Grunt could possibly be taller than some other krogan. For example, when Shepard went to speak to Grunt in the cargo hold his eyes were about level with her eyes, but during the scenes with Okeer and Tank Bred Krogan their eyes were at her chest level (which made the ‘You are different’ line from Tank Bred Krogan sorta LOLable)

Change in eye color Edit

When I completed Grunt´s loyalty mission, it seemed his eyes changed from blue to light green. I don´t know if it´s just my imagination, because I don´t see this in any wiki or on the forums. If I find any link proving it, I will post it here. (I´m sorry if this isn´t written properly, as english isn´t my native language) 189.250.114.104 05:01, March 14, 2020 (UTC)

I can honestly say I’ve never seen this happen. SpartHawg948 05:03, March 14, 2020 (UTC) I have also never seen this happen. Grunt’s eyes are always blue for me. Lancer1289 05:10, March 14, 2020 (UTC)

The game’s lighting could have done it, as it is different in different areas. Have you noticed that Tali’s mask changes from pink to purple to violet? Some eye colours for Shepard also seem to change depending on the lighting, for example one of my Shep’s light blue eyes change from really dark to, well, light blue. —kiadony 11:45, March 14, 2020 (UTC)

grunt in me3 Edit

Do we have confirmation that grunt is in me3 I know he will most likely appear according to what i’ve read but do we know for sure? 174.253.139.90 20:12, November 2, 2020 (UTC)

We don’t have any information on Grunt for ME3 yet. Lancer1289 20:27, November 2, 2020 (UTC) Actually Grunt can be seen in one of the recent trailers for the new site pages on the Mass Effect 3 website. I forget which video it is but its clearly him from his head ridges. He’s charging into a pack of creatures (rachni i think).Garhdo 03:02, March 1, 2020 (UTC)

Find that video and present it. Perhaps then the editors will have the proof they need to act. Without that video that clearly shows Grunt in it, they won’t lift a finger—AdmiralPedro1stFleet 03:45, March 1, 2020 (UTC)

Found the trailer you spoke of. No that is not Grunt. Brown crest. Golden Yellow eyes. There is no proof in that—AdmiralPedro1stFleet 03:52, March 1, 2020 (UTC)

No that’s the krogan in Against All Odds. Not the one I meant. I’ll have a look later. Garhdo 18:36, March 2, 2020 (UTC)

Grunt’s close-quarters Charge Edit

Grunt’s unique ability to (spontaneously) charge nearby opponents seems to be more than mere «Trivia»: it’s a powerful combat element that a player might wish to learn about from reading his main dossier, but that may be overlooked by its being buried in a long list of trivia. Thoughts? — AnotherRho (talk) 21:05, January 6, 2020 (UTC)

His tank Edit

Is it just me, or can anybody else see his tank through the window even when Grunt was not recruited (You did not visit Korlus yet)?

Treatment in ME3 if Grunt was never released from the tank. Edit

Am I right to assume that if Grunt was never released from the tank, he is simply treated as dead in ME3?

«If Shepard chooses to spare the Rachni Queen or artificial queen, then Aralakh Company is slaughtered holding off wave after wave of rachni.» Edit

Wrong. I spared the Queen in 1 and released her in 3, and Arlakh Company still showed up as a War Asset. Though it’s interesting to note that if you kill the Queen in 1, releasing her in 3 is framed as the Renegade choice, while if you spare her in 1, releasing her in 3 is a Paragon choice.

They survive, but at a severely reduced war asset value.

Reason for Grunt’s name Edit

Hi, I’m new to this wiki. I made an edit to the article that I didn’t explain properly in the edit history. The previous version cited Grunt’s assessment of his name from Okeer’s last words as such: «he considers it to be short and simple, descriptive of both his training and purpose.»

That might be somebody’s interpretation of why Grunt liked that name, but his stated motive is much more nihilistic: «It has no meaning. It’ll do.»

I figure it makes more sense to replace the old version with this quote, and leave it to the reader to decide whether Grunt believes there’s actual significance to his chosen name. 108.221.208.33 12:08, February 28, 2020 (UTC)My_Name_Is_Fel

I think that leaving the original is better. Thank you—TW6464 (talk) 15:46, February 28, 2020 (UTC)

Hey, I’m also new in this Wiki. Maybe it can be added to the Trivia that Grunt could be a reference to the german word «grantig» which means very angry. Literally you can also say grumpy or grouchy. This fact would fit to his personality. —79.213.8.38 11:14, April 21, 2020 (UTC)AFM33—79.213.8.38 11:14, April 21, 2020 (UTC)

Citadel meeting Edit

Sorry if people have not had the chance to play the game yet but i personally thought Grunt was far to out of character here, to tame. What do you all think?—FossilLord 23:10, March 5, 2020 (UTC)

Talk pages aren’t for discussing things like this. Garhdo (talk) 23:12, March 5, 2020 (UTC)

ME3 AI issues? Edit

I think grunt has some AI issues as a temporary squadmate in ME3 (he just follows me and looks at me, only attacking when someone gets between him and me) is anyone else getting similar issues and should they be mentioned? Midnightpiranha (talk) 11:58, April 1, 2020 (UTC)

Hey I am a random user but ME fan and I used Grunt in every mission I could but I always thought it would be better if Grunts incerderary ammo was replaced with armor piercing ammo. I mean alot of missions where grunt is most useful is filled with armored enemies. I was wondering if anyone else thought this way as well, or if there was any ability you wish a character had different abilities

This page is for discussing Grunt’s article here on the wiki; you should try the forum, blogs, or the BioWare Social Network. Elseweyr (talk) 19:00, November 23, 2020 (UTC)

Grunt the «Space Cowboy» Edit

When Grunt is under the shower in the apartment the «Spacecowboy-thing», why is there a Link to Cowboy Bebop? Could be also a reference to Firefly/Serenity (Which i find more fitting for Grunt and the whole ME universe). just saying. 93.197.105.144 03:00, February 21, 2020 (UTC)

Steve Blum, Grunt’s voice actor, provided Cowboy Bebop protagonist Spike Spiegel’s English dub voice. «See you Space Cowboy» are the closing words for every episode of that show. 174.37.61.78 04:41, February 21, 2020 (UTC)

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